Price-performance ratio or performance-price ratio?

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Even though this term [price-performance ratio] would seem to be a straightforward ratio, when price performance is improved, better, or ... Jumptocontent Home Forums Blogs AllActivity More More SearchIn Everywhere Topics ThisForum ThisTopic Moreoptions... Findresultsthatcontain... Anyofmysearchtermwords Allofmysearchtermwords Findresultsin... Contenttitlesandbody Contenttitlesonly Otherculturesandlanguage AllActivity Home Forums Extras Otherculturesandlanguage Price-performanceratioorperformance-priceratio? Price-performanceratioorperformance-priceratio? By Kenny同志, December14,2011at09:18AMinOtherculturesandlanguage  Share Moresharingoptions... Followers 4 Replytothistopic Startnewtopic RecommendedPosts Kenny同志 PostedDecember14,2011at09:18AM Kenny同志 Members 3.4k Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at09:18AM AccordingtotheWikipedia,“Eventhoughthisterm[price-performanceratio]wouldseemtobeastraightforwardratio,whenpriceperformanceisimproved,better[ithinkitshouldbe“bettered”here],orincreased,itactuallyreferstotheperformancedividedbytheprice,inotherwordsexactlytheoppositeratiotorankaproductashavinganincreasedPrice/performance.Toavoidsuchconfusion,thewordratioisoftendroppedorthedashusedinstead.Technicalandnewspublicationsareoftensloppyintheircoverageofchangesinthesematters” Sowhichonewouldyouprefer,“performance-priceratio”or“price-performanceratio”whenyoumeantheratiooftheperformancetothepriceofaproduct.Tome,thesecondtermiswrong. 1 Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... SiteSponsors: PlecoforiPhone/AndroidiPhone&AndroidChinesedictionary:camera&hand-writinginput,flashcards,audio. StudyChineseinKunming1-1classes,qualifiedteachersanduniqueteachingmethodsintheSpringCity. LearnChineseCharactersLearn2289ChineseCharactersin90DayswithaUniqueFlashCardSystem. HackingChineseTipsandstrategiesforhowtolearnChinesemoreefficiently PopupChineseTranslatorUnderstandChineseinsideanyWindowsapplication,websiteorPDF. ChineseGrammarWikiAllChinesegrammar,organisedbylevel,allinoneplace. imron PostedDecember14,2011at09:32AM imron Administrators 13.5k Location:国外 Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at09:32AM I'dneveractuallythoughtaboutitlikethatbefore,butanyway,price-performanceratioisthewordIwoulduse,eventhoughyes,it'sactuallybackwards.Itjustsoundsbetter,andIdon'tthinkmanypeoplearethinkingaboutthemathematicsbehinditwhentheysaythatword.It'stakenonameaningofitsown. Noteverythinginlanguageislogical,compareforexample好容易vs好不容易vs好不威风. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Hofmann PostedDecember14,2011at09:37AM Hofmann Members 2.5k Chinese:些須認得幾個字 Location:SiliconSlopes Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at09:37AM Well,dotheywantittobeloworhigh? Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Kenny同志 PostedDecember14,2011at09:57AM Kenny同志 Members 3.4k Author Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at09:57AM Imron,好容易and好不威风areprobablyusedmostlyinnorthernChina.IrarelyhearthemfromthelipsofSoutherners. Anyway,Itendtoavoidsuchwordsastheywouldcauseconfusion. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... imron PostedDecember14,2011at10:45AM imron Administrators 13.5k Location:国外 Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at10:45AM 好容易and好不威风areprobablyusedmostlyinnorthernChina Itwasjustanexampleofhowlanguageisn'talwayslogical.ActuallyI'vebeenseeing'好不....'alotinsomeofthebooksI'vebeenreadinglatelywhichiswhyitsprangtomind(金庸seemstolikeusingit,asdoesthecurrentauthorI'mreading),andIfinditamusingthatitmeans'very'inbasicallyeverysituation,unlessthewordfollowingitis容易,inwhichcaseitmeans'not'. Well,dotheywantittobeloworhigh? Theywantittobegood Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... realmayo PostedDecember14,2011at11:11AM realmayo Members 4.2k Location:牛棚 Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at11:11AM Well,dotheywantittobeloworhigh? Iknowthisisn'twhatyoumean,butEnglishpreferstogofromhightolowinthesoundsitmakes,andthevowelinpriceishigherthanthefirstvowelinperformance. Thinkalso:tick-tock,drip-drop,shilly-shally,tit-for-tat,zigzag,wibble-wobble,tittle-tattle,topsey-turvey,rackandruin,houseandhome,rantandrave,etcetc.IguessChineseisthesametoo. Thenagainprice-performancemightbeinthatordermorebecausetheshorterwordisbettercomingfirst. Oragainbecause"performance"canalsobeusedasanadjectiveandputtingitbeforeanounmightconfusethelistenerforasecondintothinkinghe'shearingadj+nounratherthannoun+noun. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... jbradfor PostedDecember14,2011at02:40PM jbradfor Members 3.6k Chinese:Intermediate Location:WA,USA Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at02:40PM price-performance. Yes,nowthatyoumentionitthephrasedoesseembackwards,butthat'swhateveryoneuses,and"performance-price"soundsstrangetome. Iwouldsuggestyoubecarefulandnotuse"increased",butuse"improved"instead.Ithinkthat'sprettyunambiguous. better(Ithinkitshouldbe“bettered”here), "Bettered"isprobablycorrect,butwealmostneversaythat,atleastinAmerican-English."madebetter",or,betteryet,"improved".Can'tspeaktoothercountries. BTW,andIonlymentionthissinceyouseemtocareaboutsuchthings,normallywhenonemakesacommentinaquotation,oneuses"[]",not"()".Ihadtoreaditacoupleoftimestounderstandit. 1 Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... skylee PostedDecember14,2011at02:48PM skylee Members 14.7k Chinese:高不成低不就 Location:852 Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at02:48PM normallywhenonemakesacommentinaquotation,oneuses"[]",not"()".Ihadtoreaditacoupleoftimestounderstandit. Nowthisisjustaninternetforum...veryupsettohavetoreadaboutsquarebracketsevenafterwork... Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... realmayo PostedDecember14,2011at03:54PM realmayo Members 4.2k Location:牛棚 Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at03:54PM Hmm,Iagreewithjbradfor,ifyouusethecurvedbracketsitisconfusing,ifyouusethesquarebracketsitisn'tconfusing. Bettered:ifyousaysomethingisbetteredIthinkitnormallycarriesthesensethatsomethinghasdonebetterthansomethingelse.Theriseinsilverwasbetteredonlybytheriseingold,somethinglikethat.It'snotusedmuchinBritishEnglish. 1 Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... cababunga PostedDecember14,2011at06:16PM cababunga Members 135 Location:Vancouver,BC,Canada Report Share PostedDecember14,2011at06:16PM Sowhichonewouldyouprefer,“performance-priceratio”or“price-performanceratio”whenyoumeantheratiooftheperformancetothepriceofaproduct.Tome,thesecondtermiswrong. "Better"doesn'talwaysmean"bigger".Forexample,whenyousay"betterresponsetime"youactuallymeanshortertime.Fuelconsumptionexpressedinlittersper100kmisalsobetterwhenthenumberissmaller. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Kenny同志 PostedDecember15,2011at06:56AM Kenny同志 Members 3.4k Author Report Share PostedDecember15,2011at06:56AM Thankyoueverybody. Iwilllistentoyounativespeakersbecauseallofyouseemtobeagreedonthispoint. Jbradforwrote: "Bettered"isprobablycorrect,butwealmostneversaythat,atleastinAmerican-English."madebetter",or,betteryet,"improved".Can'tspeaktoothercountries. BTW,andIonlymentionthissinceyouseemtocareaboutsuchthings,normallywhenonemakesacommentinaquotation,oneuses"[]",not"()".Ihadtoreaditacoupleoftimestounderstandit. Yes,Idocareaboutsuchthings.ThankyouagainJbradforandRealmayo. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... creamyhorror PostedDecember15,2011at09:34AM creamyhorror Members 936 Report Share PostedDecember15,2011at09:34AM Eventhoughthisterm[price-performanceratio]wouldseemtobeastraightforwardratio,whenpriceperformanceisimproved,better,orincreased,itactuallyreferstotheperformancedividedbytheprice,inotherwordsexactlytheoppositeratiotorankaproductashavinganincreasedPrice/performance. Whataterriblywrittensentence,evenforWikipedia. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... cababunga PostedDecember15,2011at07:08PM cababunga Members 135 Location:Vancouver,BC,Canada Report Share PostedDecember15,2011at07:08PM Whataterriblywrittensentence,evenforWikipedia. Seemslikeyouhaveaverygoodideaonhowitcanbewrittenbetter. http://en.wikipedia....tio&action=edit 1 Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... creamyhorror PostedDecember15,2011at08:49PM creamyhorror Members 936 Report Share PostedDecember15,2011at08:49PM Seemslikeyouhaveaverygoodideaonhowitcanbewrittenbetter.http://en.wikipedia....tio&action=edit Nothanks,Ijustfeltlikeremarkingonthefact.Imakesmalleditsfromtimetotimebutmajorrephrasingsaretoomuchtrouble.Andsurelymostpeoplewouldagreeit'sbadlywritten,consideringhowthe"when"clauseshouldn'tbeincludedandhowthelastpartdoesn'tevenseemtoconnectgrammatically. Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Shelley PostedDecember15,2011at09:33PM Shelley Members 5.2k Chinese:Intermediate Location:England Report Share PostedDecember15,2011at09:33PM IthinkIwouldputthewordthatwasmostimportantfirst,soformeperfomanceversuspricewouldmeanthattheperfomancewasmoreimportantthanthepricebutthatiwantedtoknowtheperfomanceforeachitemthentheprice.Ifitwasprice/perfomanceiwouldthenexpecttohavealistofcheapesttomostexpensivewiththecorespondingperformance. Iwouldagreetheword"bettered"iscorrectinthiscontext,butitdoessoundabitoldfashioned. Shelley Quote Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Jointheconversation Youcanpostnowandselectyourusernameandpasswordlater. Ifyouhaveanaccount,signinnowtopostwithyouraccount. Note:Yourpostwillrequiremoderatorapprovalbeforeitwillbevisible. 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